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Obama Renovation/Remake

#1
I'm working on a remake of Obama, I'll keep everyone updated. So far, the changelog is as follows:

-Updated textures, will have an actual theme. The theme is similar to jb_papaskingdom's theme.
-Vent cell will now have a 10% chance of being a fall to death. This will prevent the instant-rebel guaranteed nature, but not entirely.
-Made it easier to navigate through the map. 
-P250 cell is now a USP-S cell, to help shoot the warden from a distance.
-Vent cell now has a hallway (measured: takes 3 more seconds to jump into it, assuming at a constant 250 velocity.) All vent toilets now have a mediumly visible glass wall, visible for everyone.
-Molly cell will require a more precise throw in order to hit the open-cells button. Molly will be removed from cell after 10 seconds.
-Jumprope game completely removed and added somewhere else, the location of jumprope is now a portal. That portal will take you to LR room, to encourage T's to not only rebel but to also try to get LR. That portal will also consist Surf, Bunnyhop, and Colors, our most loved games.
-Easy Climb is now slightly more difficult.
-Hard Climb is now slightly more difficult.
-Armory cell removed
-Added lengthy gun secrets if you're dedicated
-Remodeled armory room, and you will now need to hold a key, which is a bomb, and throw it into armory in order for the door to open if you are a T. CTs can now press a button to get inside. Armory can be opened from the inside by anyone, and there is a vent next to armory now for anyone to break with 133 damage needed.
-Added more Obama secrets (robama, brobama, etc.)
-Added Obama VS Trump graffiti in armory, to fit the theme of the map and name.

More to come, taking suggestions and criticism. Just be nice, or I'll just ignore you. Doing this for the community because the majority of us don't really like Obama anymore, and for those who do, it could always be better.
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#2
If the majority of us don't like obama anymore, which is true at least for me so why remake it. It's an old concept thats just a map with 5 games and 4 of them are climbs. I know the "appeal" of the map is rebelling, but I can say it's a boring map. I also know you said you're adding more games or whatever, but why not just make a new map. I don't doubt people wont play it, of course they will. Just my input.
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#3
We wanted to have some mapper(s) remake it but the original map maker has some obnoxious price behind editing his map ( like $500 )
We don’t have to follow it per se but it’s probably better to just avoid not doing it
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#4
(09-21-2017, 02:22 AM)Tickle Wrote: We wanted to have some mapper(s) remake it but the original map maker has some obnoxious price behind editing his map ( like $500 )
We don’t have to follow it per se but it’s probably better to just avoid not doing it

Or just remove it?

The games are so limited that it isn't even worth considering fun. Too many secrets, people only pick it to fuck around.
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#5
(09-21-2017, 02:30 AM)KiEran Wrote:
(09-21-2017, 02:22 AM)Tickle Wrote: We wanted to have some mapper(s) remake it but the original map maker has some obnoxious price behind editing his map ( like $500 )
We don’t have to follow it per se but it’s probably better to just avoid not doing it

Or just remove it?

The games are so limited that it isn't even worth considering fun. Too many secrets, people only pick it to fuck around.

I don't think it should be removed. Fucking around is really fun and fun is the name of the game right?

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#6
I like the overall idea of remaking the map. Here's some things

I really don't like the idea of giving the vent cell a 10% chance of killing you. Obviously you are going to try and go for the vent every time, that 10% that kills you just seems like unnecessary rng.  

Be very careful of putting games through a portal, it opens up a lot of camping by rebelling t's and last guards. Those awkward situations where both parties are camping a portal are no fun. I strongly recommend you don't put main games through a portal, that kind of stuff can ruin potentially good maps

I really like the armory key idea
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#7
(09-21-2017, 05:33 AM)Troopley Wrote: I really don't like the idea of giving the vent cell a 10% chance of killing you. Obviously you are going to try and go for the vent every time, that 10% that kills you just seems like unnecessary rng.  

agreed, everyone is gonna take that gamble and they'll just be pissed if they are one of the unlucky ones
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#8
(09-21-2017, 05:35 AM)Pavlo Wrote:
(09-21-2017, 05:33 AM)Troopley Wrote: I really don't like the idea of giving the vent cell a 10% chance of killing you. Obviously you are going to try and go for the vent every time, that 10% that kills you just seems like unnecessary rng.  

agreed, everyone is gonna take that gamble and they'll just be pissed if they are one of the unlucky ones

Make it 50/50 and make the vents leet
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#9
good ideas. Would suggest that you Nerf scout secret in some way
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#10
Keep up the good work!
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