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Obama Renovation/Remake

#11
(09-21-2017, 02:53 PM)Chrono Wrote:
(09-21-2017, 05:35 AM)Pavlo Wrote:
(09-21-2017, 05:33 AM)Troopley Wrote: I really don't like the idea of giving the vent cell a 10% chance of killing you. Obviously you are going to try and go for the vent every time, that 10% that kills you just seems like unnecessary rng.  

agreed, everyone is gonna take that gamble and they'll just be pissed if they are one of the unlucky ones

Make it 50/50 and make the vents leet

Or just have it not kill you at all, I really don't like the whole random death thing
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#12
I think we should keep the blank textures the same. Obama is unique in that way, that is its theme. When you think of the orange map, you think of Obama. Its just different. Simple, yet complex. The map as it is looks visually appealing(at least to me) even with 2 primary colors.
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#13
(09-21-2017, 04:56 PM)Troopley Wrote:
(09-21-2017, 02:53 PM)Chrono Wrote:
(09-21-2017, 05:35 AM)Pavlo Wrote:
(09-21-2017, 05:33 AM)Troopley Wrote: [spoiler]
I really don't like the idea of giving the vent cell a 10% chance of killing you. Obviously you are going to try and go for the vent every time, that 10% that kills you just seems like unnecessary rng.  

agreed, everyone is gonna take that gamble and they'll just be pissed if they are one of the unlucky ones

Make it 50/50 and make the vents leet

Or just have it not kill you at all, I really don't like the whole random death thing
I agree with this. It should be something like it has a 10% chance of teleporting you into the middle of main cell area. It is unique in the way that it doesn't kill you, but it still gives you a chance to rebel. If you do it early enough and get teleported, you have a couple of seconds to run and find another way of rebelling. If you do it too late, you will most likely die from the CT's.(Unless there aim is as bad as mine)

This just adds something new. You are still taking a risk of going into vents, still no matter what you'll be KOS because you're out of your cell before the doors are open, but it does not guarantee death.
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#14
(09-21-2017, 05:35 AM)Pavlo Wrote:
(09-21-2017, 05:33 AM)Troopley Wrote: I really don't like the idea of giving the vent cell a 10% chance of killing you. Obviously you are going to try and go for the vent every time, that 10% that kills you just seems like unnecessary rng.  

agreed, everyone is gonna take that gamble and they'll just be pissed if they are one of the unlucky ones

also agreed. I should also say that 1. you probably shouldn't make hard climb harder as most people can't even finish it and 2. I think you should keep the armory cell. It's a fun addition to the map and the map is supposed to be a rebelling map anyways, and this just pretty much defeats one of the whole purposes of the map
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#15
You should also add more ways to rebel, yes they can be difficult. Since the updated rules, it is now harder for anyone to rebel. Adding more ways to rebel would sort of even the scale out again
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#16
(09-22-2017, 05:59 PM)Outboundsphinx4 Wrote: You should also add more ways to rebel, yes they can be difficult. Since the updated rules, it is now harder for anyone to rebel. Adding more ways to rebel would sort of even the scale out again

I do not agree with this. Obama is still stupid easy to rebel on even with the new rules.
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#17
(09-22-2017, 07:26 PM)RussianLightning Wrote:
(09-22-2017, 05:59 PM)Outboundsphinx4 Wrote: You should also add more ways to rebel, yes they can be difficult. Since the updated rules, it is now harder for anyone to rebel. Adding more ways to rebel would sort of even the scale out again

I do not agree with this. Obama is still stupid easy to rebel on even with the new rules.

I didn't see any change of rebelling on obama when the new rules were placed in effect.
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#18
(09-21-2017, 02:20 AM)Cookie Wrote: If the majority of us don't like obama anymore, which is true at least for me so why remake it. It's an old concept thats just a map with 5 games and 4 of them are climbs. I know the "appeal" of the map is rebelling, but I can say it's a boring map. I also know you said you're adding more games or whatever, but why not just make a new map. I don't doubt people wont play it, of course they will. Just my input.
I appreciate your input. I understand that you feel obama is boring, trust me I'm completely with you. However, newer players who aren't as good at rebelling as others tend to prey on Obama, and unfortunately those players make up the majority. That's why it is so commonly played. I decided I might as well remake it so it's fun for everyone. 

I am currently working on a seperate map, but I can't share details yet. Just look forward to it.
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#19
(09-21-2017, 04:56 PM)Troopley Wrote:
(09-21-2017, 02:53 PM)Chrono Wrote:
(09-21-2017, 05:35 AM)Pavlo Wrote:
(09-21-2017, 05:33 AM)Troopley Wrote: I really don't like the idea of giving the vent cell a 10% chance of killing you. Obviously you are going to try and go for the vent every time, that 10% that kills you just seems like unnecessary rng.  

agreed, everyone is gonna take that gamble and they'll just be pissed if they are one of the unlucky ones

Make it 50/50 and make the vents leet

Or just have it not kill you at all, I really don't like the whole random death thing


Fun Fact: Theres already a vent that kills you 99% of the time, the other 1% of the time it TP's you right at the armory vent.
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#20
That vent makes a lot more sense, there is already another vent that works 100% of the time, and the vent you’re speaking of takes you to armory. It’s actually balanced, unlike a normal 50/50 vent
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